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All of a twitter

There's some twittering at present about whether CILIP has (or should have) any "official" presence on various lists or micro blog sites.

The simple answer, of course, is no. In terms of "official" activity, cyber life is just like real like - if it happens in a CILIP-sanctioned space, it's official; if it happens down the pub or in someone else's space, it isn't.

But there's a deeper question to address. As everybody networks with everybody else in an increasingly informal and always-on way, how do organisations maintain a culture of inclusion and, at the same time, retain a methodical approach to work planning, managing, and decision-making? This is a critical issue for organisations like professional bodies or indeed academic institutions - any organisation where a rational approach to management is potentially conflicted by the emotional affiliation of members to their peer group: academics to their field of study rather than to their university; LIS specialists to their field of specialism rather than to their professional institute.

Back in the days when I taught management, Charles Handy wrote about the "psychology" of organisations, contrasting the institute (symbolised by the Doric pillars of classical architecture) and the network (symbolised by a spider's web). But that was a long time before we entered the information age - and it's clear that cyber space and social media have widened the gap considerably between the culture of the institute and the culture of the network.

So, how do we deal with this widening gap? How do we bring together the best features of an institute (integrity, authority, sustainability) and the best features of a network (currency, flexibility, accessibility)? This is a key question which underlies a number of "hot topics" around CILIP at present: communications; governance; relationships between the CILIP people working at Ridgmount Street and the CILIP people working for Branches and Groups.

So - just to test whether anyone actually reads this stuff - what do you think? How can we best combine the authority of our institute with the democracy of our network? How can we continue to use our resources in a planned and structured way - and still find time and space to engage with all the twittering?

Answers on a blog post, please, to this address. And no peengeing...

     

Comments

# Christopher Thomas Roper said:

Tricky: great strengths of Twitter are  immediacy  brevity, and a very personal voice and so the idea of a Twitter feed that gave closely argued institutional policy positions is a non-starter.

But as a tool to alert members quickly to events, statements, publications...invaluable.

What's interesting is the unoffical CILIP Twitter that have sprung up: they must be meeting a need.

18 February 2009 17:31
# Christopher Thomas Roper said:

And <a href="http://twitter.com/ostephens/">Owen Stephens</a> has asked me to leave this comment on his behalf:

" I would leave a comment if I could work out how!?"

I simply add that Owen is no slouch technically, indeed the latchet of whose mashed-up sandals I am unworthy to unfasten

26 February 2009 21:57
# Pete Smith said:

We stop worrying about our authority- we certainly stop <i>assuming</i> it. We don't worry about official spaces or unofficial; we get involved. If CILIP is it's members then with all the blogging and twittering they do CILIP is already involved, whether it's sanctioned by Ridgmount Street or not.

Phil Bradley is right- you have no choice Bob. if we are to claim any 'authority' in the field of information, we get out there and blog, twitter- whatever the game is. And we open up to non CILIP members too.

Pete Smith MCLIP

27 February 2009 12:42
# Anonymous said:

What's peengeing?

I agree with @ostephens (who is indeed extremely tech-literate) that it's posting a comment is totally counter-intuitive. Fortunately I paid my CILIP subs this year so I'm at least allowed to do so. For others struggling, the way I did it was going to the main CILIP website, logging in, then coming back here and refreshing the page. How hard would it be to stick a 'login' link at the end of each post? Or here's a revolutionary idea: allow professionals who've chosen not to pay CILIP to have a voice in your precious CILIP-sanctioned space? Maybe you'd start to discover why some people aren't willing to pay?

I think Phil Bradley's said everything else I wanted to and more eloquently than I ever could:

http://philbradley.typepad.com/phil_bradleys_weblog/2009/02/cilip---epic-fail.html

Edith ( @wiilassie on Twitter)

27 February 2009 12:56
# Clarissa said:

I disagree completely with your "simple answer". There is so much going on at the moment that Libraries and Librarians can take advantage of and add value to, but if we ignore it (as you seem to be doing with Twitter) then someone else will do it and as a profession we will all become obsolete. You ask at the end for ways to engage with things like twitter, whilst having previoulsy stated that you refuse to engae with what's going on outside CILIP. CILIP could be so much more to so many of us, but this backward-looking navel-gazing approach makes me so angry.

And for anyone else according to OED to peenge is "To whine, complain in a whining voice; to mope, fret."

27 February 2009 13:26
# A.J.Platts@leeds.ac.uk said:

You comment on " relationships between the CILIP people working at Ridgmount Street and the CILIP people working for Branches and Groups."

What about CILIP's relationship with it's members? Many of them are very active on Twitter. Surely this should be viewed as a great wait to engage and relate to them, not as a waste of CILIP's time!

Amanda (@ajwillis on Twitter)

27 February 2009 14:04
# Keir Hopwood said:

The simple is answer is no - but why? 10 Downing Street is Twittering - does Ridgemount Street have less free time? Or a more sensitive image to uphold?

Web 2.0 tools can take as much or as little time / effort as one wishes to invest - as is apparent from the adoption of CILIP blogging.

Twitter is just another useful tool in the box and would help promote the use of these much more time- and effort-intensive blogs!

27 February 2009 14:16
# Neil Ford said:

Does the sudden influx of comments to this blog post strike you as strange? Or the high number of comments compared to other posts on this blog?

I'm fairly confident that it is not coincidental that within hours of Phil Bradley publicising his blog entry on this topic on Twitter, you received more comments than for any of your other recent posts.

The strength of this response is testimony to the power of Twitter in disseminating information quickly. But spreading information is not Twitter's only benefit. It is a two-way channel and gives you the opportunity to listen to what your members are saying - both about CILIP and the profession in general.

Phil's post adds to a growing body of blog posts, tweets, discussions on linkedin, and offline discussions about this issue.

Please, reconsider your stance on CILIP having an official presence on Twitter. If it is a question of overhead, I'm sure many of the information professionals currently using Twitter would be keen to lend their expertise.

27 February 2009 15:46
# Christopher Hall said:

As a long-standing CILIP member I am disappointed in the failure of the mandarins in Ridgmount Street to see the benefits of engaging with librarians "out there" via social networks such as Twitter.  Surely both the "official" channels and informal networks have their part to play in disseminating information and encouraging debate between CILIP members and non-members alike.

As a public librarian a key aspect of my role is to engage with hard-to-reach groups out in the community; CILIP's own "hard to reach" group, it could be argued, is its non-members and the organisation is missing a trick by not using Twitter to engage with them.

To be honest, I have felt more engaged and energised through networking with my fellow librarians in the few weeks I have been using Twitter, than I have ever felt in 20+ years of membership of CILIP!

27 February 2009 16:34
# Robert McKee said:

Great stuff!  I'm enjoying the responses, both here and on Phil's blog - and I'm finding them very helpful. At the risk of infuriating those of you who live in the world of "always on"networked conversation, I'm going off line now for a couple of days. But I'll come back to this issue early next week, both here and over at Phil's place, So keep the comments coming! Cheers. Bob.

27 February 2009 17:40
# Robert McKee said:

Sorry about the "Dr Robert Andrew McKee" bit - that's my full name as recorded in the CILIP membership database. Just "Bob" is fine...

27 February 2009 17:43
# Alice_Tyler said:

To me the difference between  "Dr Robert Andrew McKee" and "Bob" encapsulates the distinction between the formal and the informal - the institute and the network  -  that Bob McKee talked about in his original posting.

27 February 2009 19:54
# Robert McKee said:

Thinking about this string of comments over the weekend convinces me that we're touching the tip of a very big iceberg here - which is, fundamentally, about how social networking can change the dynamic of institutionalised professionalism. So here's what I'm going to do. Today I'm going to print off all the comments from my blog and from Phil's blog, and gather some other material which I think is relevant. Tomorrow I've got two long train journeys when I'll try to get my head round the issue.  And then, on Wednesday, I'll post something both here and on Phil's blog. Cheers. Bob.

02 March 2009 09:58
# Louise Kim Tucker said:

Dear Bob

Having seen the debate that your posting has initiated across your Blog and Phil Bradley's Blog which steers towards views about what CILIP is/is not doing for us, is there any chance that CILIP could provide an open forum, using a Web 2.0 tool, to enable debate (amongst members and non-members) about what kind of support and representation that we would like from CILIP please? In other words, provide us with the opportunity to give our "wish list" as Phil Bradley has done?

I think this could benefit CILIP and its audience because it offers a chance to:

* promote to members and non-members what CILIP is already doing and plans to do that we may have missed or that we would benefit from being reminded about.  For example I had completely missed the fact that your Blog exists, I only know about it now because of reference to it on Phil Bradley’s Blog, and I’m a CILIP member who’s subscribed to a CILIP mailing list, RSS feed and I read the Update and Gazette magazines);

* provide CILIP with ideas of things it could do in future that would encourage greater engagement with members and non-members;

* potentially provide CILIP with offers of assistance and collaboration to work on existing ideas and implement and new ones.

Thank you.

03 March 2009 17:09
# Robert McKee said:

I really like that idea, Louise - and we'll follow it up. I've posted - as promised - my reflections on the discussion so far in a new blog post this morning entitled "Yes, let's try that!" Comments welcome, as ever. Cheers. Bob.

04 March 2009 10:53
# Katharine Widdows said:

I think CILIP HAVE TO get involved in web 2. How can we possibly claim to be an Information Profession if we don't? its that simple.

06 March 2009 13:30
# David Byrne said:

This torrent about twitter started life in a humble "an open forum, set up to enable debate (amongst members and non-members) about what kind of support and representation that we would like from CILIP" - that open forum is the 'CILIP' Group on LinkedIN -  If you or other people in your network might like to join the 'CILIP' group, this is the link that can be clicked to request membership: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/1730267  - not officially sponsored by CILIP but then that is where we started with all of this discussion of "Why Twitter Matters For CILIP"

11 March 2009 18:48
# Matt Hunt Knowledge Manager RCN said:

This is quite a woeful view from CILIP. Its not just a case of missing the boat, on this basis I'm not even sure they know the Titanic sank.

19 March 2009 09:34